All about Kobe "Kobrone" Bryant: the Master of Arrogance, the King of the Ballhoggers, the Lord of the Liars.

A forum for those who hate pompous, self-absorbed, false athletes.

Saturday, June 03, 2006

Shaq Makes the Difference


"Ever since Shaquille O'Neal showed up on the scene, the Heat has been a legitimate contender." Pat Riley at a post-game press conference.

222 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope Kobe is crying like a figure skater.

1:05 AM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Haha, yeah, I hope he's crying like Tonya Harding right now.

I wonder if he'll hire someone to break Shaq's legs?

1:09 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fathers, hide your teenage daughters. I bet you-know-who is raping mad.

1:26 AM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

Dobe is busy trying to figure out how he can cheat on his wife again.

1:57 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe she doesn't pay much attention and he can tell her he's in Miami playing in the finals. Then he can go to town, going through teenagers at warp speed.

2:20 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you guys are sick sick people. trust me, when you do bad things, it will come back to you.

it's only a matter of time.

2:33 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad as in raping teenagers while the wife is at home?

2:40 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

people ask y post if kobe fan?

just to tell you how much l.a and even other cities love ya. this is his town, his rule and guess what, lebron, elton, timmy, tony, michael and others are on the fishing trip with us and watching t.v on the couch. he aint lonley. shaqs ganna join us too.

2:50 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh man, this blog is ganna get taken over by the fans.

2:51 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

well L.A. might love Kobe but the rest of the country doesn't seem to. According to an agency which tests celebrities marketing appeal Kobe's Q rating(marketability rating) is the lowest in all of sports. Its actually just slighly above's Robert Blake's Q rating

3:13 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

of course, but his image is quickly rising. his shoes are slling well and he wasnt booed in the all star game. he basically got many of his fans back from his 81 point performence.

3:22 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

this was actually taken after the 81 point game

3:46 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, after the 81 point game, he got most of his repputation back. denver and miami hates him, but l.a also hates shaq, so their even now. but man, to be booed in l.a, thats harsh.

and if the blog was created after the 81 point game, i can see why, naw what i mean ;)

6:25 AM

 
Blogger Steve Hunter said...

man, if kobe just had some support, like a Wade, then he could have overcome having the fat guy on the floor with him...I mean...uh...never mind.

2:03 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Nah, Dobe could never handle having a Wade play with him. This is precisely why Dobe kept threatening to leave for the Clippers. He couldn't take the competition from Shaq, so he manipualted the Lakers by threatening to leave.

Hmm, the "fat man" is in the finals, Dobe is sitting at home thinking of more ways to blame everyone else, but himself, for making the Lakers an average team.

3:15 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that what you want-the Lakers to be an average team? Don't you want the Lakers to become a good team, then great and ultimately become a championship team?

4:14 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

guess what guys, shaq is fat. so is as, or, to and teamplayer

10:02 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rather be fat and in the finals that Dobe going fishing.

10:34 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Exactly. And, Shaq is no longer fat, he's physically in pretty great shape.

10:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just to tell u, shaq was just as igonrant as kobe. for sure. dont u think shaq is all perfect cause he has toe injuries and misses great games that are costly. just look at it, if shaq wasnt injured early in the season, maimi might have had home court over dallas, which there probably ganna win the west. besides that fat man is old and declining greatly and lakers have young players and kg is even considering to playing there, even sam cassel. man doesnt it sukk to be the lakers.

10:58 PM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

i think it is funny how some people talk smack to a team that is in the finals when there's hasn't won a playoff series the last two years

11:13 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

People get desperate when they have no logical arguments left, I guess.

I love this one here:

"if shaq wasnt injured early in the season, maimi might have had home court over dallas"

OK, so Kobe lovers spend all this time arguing that Shaq is old and that it's D-Wade that carries the team by himself. Now you admit what we've been saying all along - Shaq makes the difference. But now you blame Shaq for being hurt? Honestly, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Amare Stoudamire, damn you, the Suns would've had home court advantage and won if you hadn't gotten hurt. And Larry Hughes, man, you suck, how dare you break that finger, and how dare you miss 2 games because your brother died. Oh, and Hideki Matsui, if the Yankees don't win the World Series this year, it's ALL YOUR FAULT.

11:26 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who thinks the owner of the blog writes bullcrap?

11:40 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody.

11:43 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sure don't, it's a pretty good blog. Kobe fans might not like it, but whoever writes this blog makes pretty good points.

11:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Karma is abitch! Ha ah ha ha ha! Phoenix can have the two time mvp because that is the trophy they love the most. When has a two consecutive mvp not reach the finals? Oh yeah last year and this year. Itt was great to see Nash hit the floor. Ahh ha ha. Man I was gearing up for another game 7, but karma caught up to the Suns and Nash. Now its time to go fishing Waja Bell. Vroom, I hear the boat reving up. I can't wait for Dallas to put a good series in the finals.

11:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how can u say that a great player, is someone that wins championships? whattt??? ur saying that kobe will never be great because hw wont win another ring.
teampleyer and asorto, i think ur ridiculous. so ur saying sir charles, patrick, and of course the mailman is not one ofthe greats cause he never won a ring? oh, and by the way malone also had stockton.

11:47 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another year with no banner at US Airways Center. Yeah, I know the Lakers won't put one up this year-- to go along with the NINE they already have.

11:57 PM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

i don't think anybody is saying that kobe doesn't have great ability it's just that kobe pulls alot of bullshit. Shaq sure doesn't seem to miss him too much. The Clippers and the Suns which were two of the teams trying to get Kobe right now probably are happy he decided to go another direction. When Kobe is under controll he might be the best in the league the problem is that only Phil Jackson at times has been able to keep him under control.

11:59 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Dobe will never be great because he only thinks of himself, not b/c he's never won rings without his daddy Shaq. Dobe has plenty of talent, but he just doesn't understand that being Captain Selfish, or Captain 1 on 5 just wont get him rings. And heck, so far all his 40+ point games has gotten him to NOT make the playoffs and to quit on his own team in game 7, is that the sign of a great player? NOT

While the Mavs go to the finals, Dobe will be at home thinking of ways to play more 1 on 5.

The Suns have a much brighter future than the Lakers. As far as Raja Bell, his team made it to the Western Final, can you say the same thing about Dobe? and who won the Pacific? who took out Dobe in the 1st round? now ZIP it!! and beg that a major star, like KG, comes to the Lakers to save Dobe's ass. The truth sure hurts!!! :-)

11:59 PM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

Yes the lakers have nine banners three of which Shaq was the best player on

11:59 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

of course shaq aint missing kobe. but hell hes sure ganna miss l.a and his three rings cause he probably aint ganna get another if he doesnt get one this year. look at his stats

12:05 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And 5 with a classier player in Magic Johnson.

12:09 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Yeah, no kidding. Dobe has won zero rings w/o Shaq. Even if Shaq never wins another ring, he can at least brag that he's made it to the finals with the Heat, and without Dobe.

Dobe, on the other hand, will continue the "rebuilding" years. Heck, he'll go "fishing" so many times that he'll open "Dobe's Fishmarket". In fact, you get 2 extra fishing trips for not even making the playoffs, so he's pretty close to opening his own fishmarket.

12:41 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

12:43 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

how the hell is shaq gonna miss his three rings. Does Michael Jordan miss his six. Does Wayne Gretzky miss his four stanley cups. Magic Johnson was a great player but he is just as flawed as many people. As far as I know Shaq doesn't cheat on his wife the way both Kobe and Magic did theirs.

12:46 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Umm, fish."-Homer Simpson

12:52 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh boy! It is obvious you don't know Shaq as far a you know.

12:55 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Umm, fish."-Nash and the Suns

12:57 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wade is carrying shaq's sorry ass.

1:02 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dobe, on the other hand, will continue the "rebuilding" years. Heck, he'll go "fishing" so many times that he'll open "Dobe's Fishmarket". In fact, you get 2 extra fishing trips for not even making the playoffs, so he's pretty close to opening his own fishmarket.

see asorto, this is y u piss people off. with some ridiculous ass comment like this.

1:14 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hes ganna miss his three rings alan because he aint ganna win another with south beach. l.a was his only chance. he blew it. in fact, both of them blew it. shaq could brag that he went to the conference finals, but he wouldnt cause shaq doesnt give a damn. he only cares about rings. and so far, this is the record

kobe 0-3 shaq 0-2. dont be saying some shiit that shaq made it to the eastern conference finals and crap cause not even he uses excuses like that

1:17 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

hmm, so making it to the finals (i.e. the Heat) does not beat NOT making the playoffs (i.e Mr. 1 on 5)?

How about quitting on your own team to make a point, does count? it sure does

And again, without a dominat player to carry his ass, Dobe will never any rings.

And by the way, Dobe told his little fans on national t.v. that he did not cheat on his wife, only to reverse himself once the cops showed him proof that he was not telling truth. So Dobe even lies to his fans, NICE DOBE!!

1:40 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

wow since when is winning three championships and being only the second player in nba history to win three consecutive nba finals mvp awards considered blowing it.

2:15 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

and again i ask this does michael jordan miss his six championships and does wayne gretzky miss his four stanley cups

2:16 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kobe was Shaq's sidekick. Just like Pippen was Jordan's sidekick. Kobe is a more talented sidekick, but Pippen was a more intelligent player because he knew his place, which meant that he didn't cost the team so many games by taking dumb shots (Kobe does that al the time).

Kobe should beg Shaq to come back, Chris Mingh aint gonna cut it.

2:32 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

ha like shaq misses Kobe. Dwayne Wade is extending shaq's career just like magic did for Kareem

2:36 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

exactly.

2:44 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow since when is winning three championships and being only the second player in nba history to win three consecutive nba finals mvp awards considered blowing it


when you could have had the best dominant player, playing in the best dominant team and being the best duo. heats have no history. y is shaq averaging less points? because shaq ising playing the triangle offense. he had to switch to van gundys and then to rileys.

by the way asorto, y the hell do u post about kobe's life outside the court. he may lie once in a while, but u may too. u dont know how to act when u have a situation like that. this is about kobe playing 1 on 5 like u say it, then act like it. damn

4:05 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kobe was Shaq's sidekick. Just like Pippen was Jordan's sidekick. Kobe is a more talented sidekick, but Pippen was a more intelligent player because he knew his place, which meant that he didn't cost the team so many games by taking dumb shots (Kobe does that al the time).


have u been watching t.v lately about the bull. pippen wanted to be just like jordan, wanted the attention just like him. obvious that he knew that he couldnt be like him. he sucked it up like a man. kobe wanted to prove that hes nobody's sidekick and it costed him. and they took off from there.

4:08 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kobe never denied that he cheated on his wife
look it up

1:36 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

"During the interview, Bryant initially denied having sex with the woman, then changed his account, saying she initiated it after the investigators told him they had physical evidence indicating the two had sex."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/01/national/main646968.shtml

6:12 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "Dobe" thing is pretty stupid. I don't even like Kobe, but stop trying to make it happen.

6:17 PM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

"kobe never denied that he cheated on his wife look it up "

Teamplayer, thanks for showing this guy/woman that Dobe did in fact lie to his fans. Ha ha ha ha, too funny!!!

As I said before, if you're gonna follow someone blindly, at least get your facts right.

7:14 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Ever since (Herman Munster) showed up on the scene, the Heat has been a legitimate contender." (Grandpa)at a post-game press conference.

Riles is looking a bit flaky and his reruns keep showing on TVLand.

9:31 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he lied to the police, not his fans and to the public- there's a difference

11:18 PM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

ha only a kobe fan would think lying to the police is okay. Probably lied because he had something to hide.

11:34 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

since when is fallowing kobe making us blind.

11:41 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

exactly, onlye a Dobe fan would make such a comment. Now I've seen it all. That's funny. And yes, he was trying to hide the fact that he cheated on his wife, that's why he had to go on national t.v. and take that statement back. That's when he shed those crocodile tears.

11:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what?!!! how can u even say that asorto?!! yes, he did try to hide the fact, but he was in a mess. it was better for him to hide it and get rid of it instead of telling the whole world. it is wrong, but yet its also right cause probably half the world would also do the same.

12:02 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Hmm, that's an interesting way of looking at things. So you're saying that as long as you're trying to cover your ass, it's ok to lie to everyone? nice.


What about the fact that Dobe told the cops that "Shaq also cheats" on his wife, eventhough that had nothing to do with Dobe's case. As a man, do you think that was cool? I'm surprise Shaq didn't ring Dobe's neck, oh well Raja did.

The sad thing is that even if Shaq had cheated on his wife, telling the cops would never get Dobe off the hook b/c that had nothing to do with Dobe's rape case. Talk about a back stabbing snake, no wonder Dobe named himself the "Black Mamba".

12:31 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

aw man, lets just focus on his game, not his relationship with shaq.

1:06 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you talk like the police are saints. they lie too and i'm sure you will too if you were caught going 1 mph over the speed limit

anyways, most nba players cheat even your heros shaq, wade, lebron, etc. that's a fact. deny it to yourself if you want.

9:17 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and stop acting like you never lied before in your life

9:19 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

finally somebody tell em. i bet they lie too so, basically ur just as a criminal as he is. damn, thinkin they all perfect thinking that their all right.

10:22 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Oh yeah, we all lie to the police every day. That's funny.

10:32 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we all make mistakes in our lives, he did and he paid for it.

aren't we supposed to forgive and forget?

no rebuttal for the other points huh?

10:33 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

What points? That other NBA players cheat on their wives? I'm sure they do, but we're not talking about them, we're talking about Kobe. I could care less about his personal life, but you guys claim he's a wonderful human being and we're just saying that his off-the-court behavior - like cheating on his wife and lying about it to the police - is consistent with his lying to the media and his fans about things that happen on the court.

10:49 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

And, his pointing fingers at Shaq when he was the one being charged with rape, is just low and shows he is a backstabber. He does the same with basketball - he will always blame his teammates for his own failures.

10:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

both of u, stfu plz.

12:27 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

first of all i will give shaq the benifit of the doubt that he doesn't cheat on his wife because there is no evidence that he does the same way i would have kobe before eagle colorado. Secondly i have never lied to the police. Plus if he had told the police the truth about having sex with that women he might not have been charged. By lying it looked like he had something to hide. Lastly there is no reason for me to forgive kobe for anything because i don't even know him. All I know is that he tried to be a family man and i believed it so he fooled me. Because of that i assume that he hasn't changed any so i don't get fooled a second time.

1:43 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what if he has changed?

God forgives us all

2:09 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

maybe maybe not. Frankly i don't really care. I will always remember Kobe as the crying little bitch at the press conference

2:13 AM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

Plus is there any real reason to believe Kobe has changed?

2:14 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaq doesn't make the difference. It is the team around him that makes the difference. If you keep insisting the Shaq makes the difference then it is Shaq himself with his increasing weight with the Lakers and not getting into shape. Once he was in Miami he finally decided that he must get into shape and loose the pounds. Shaq himself had said after winning in LA that it was Coach Phil that made him into a champion and that before he was just a good player, but winning titles made him a great player. Shaq also said that winning a title was just the beginning and that it didn't matter what team he would be on and he said this after winning against the 76ers. You guys talk about being selfish and doing what is best for the team. Shaq is the true selfish one because didn't care about the Lakers anymore and wanted out. He threw that at the face of the Lakers fans. Many people have said that Shaq was the one responsible for bringing Malone and Payton to the Lakers, but Lakers were doomed by Malone(injured) and Payton( a no show) in the 2004 finals. I know that every Kobe hater will say that Kobe was taking bad shots and all that garbage, but no one stepped up to help Shaq and Kobe and Kobe was just trying to fill the gap. No one other than Shaq and Kobe averaged double figures throughout the 5 game series. Game 5 Slava had 10 points at half time, zero the rest of the game and DFish finished with 10 pts. Even Shaq's numbers were 10 points less and 5 rebounds less than the 3 peat success. Kobe was steading up his averages through each finals appearance. All you Kobe haters think you know but you don't know. All Kobe ever wanted and still wants is to win titles for the LA Lakers and not some other team like Shaq. You guys must rally behind the best player in the NBA right now whether you hate him personally and get behind the franchise to go out and get the right players to play with Kobe, especially if you are a Lakers fan.

2:10 PM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

According to Shaq's college coach Dale Brown after the finals against Detroit he told Mitch Kupcheck that he would do anything to stay with the Lakers. then the next day Kupcheck announced that Phil Jackson was gone and that they were willing to trade Shaq

2:58 PM

 
Blogger alandeis1985 said...

if all kobe wanted to do was win championships for the lakers then why according to phil jackson did kobe tell him that we was happy that shaq was leaving because he was tired of being the second option. It's in Phil Jackson's book the lost season if you don't believe me

3:01 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Dobe had the right players, he just couldn't play with them b/c he can't handle competition within his own team. That's why the current roster is perfect for him. Unlike Shaq, Dobe likes to play 1 on 5.

You shouldn't follow players blindly; if you like a team, you like a team, but every fan has the right to dislike players within that team. Look at Randy Johnson, lots of Yankee fans hate him, but they like the Yankees.

If Dobe is so loyal to the Lakers, why did flirt with Clippers to the point that the Clippers traded away some players to make cap room for Dobe? or better yet, was Dobe waiting for Shaq to leave before he signed with the Lakers? And if Dobe is so great, why would Jackson write the things he wrote in his book? why is it the players from Ray Allen to Caron Butler can't stand Dobe? who is the one responsible for breaking the Lakers up?

True, in his last 2 years with the Lakers, Shaq was out of shape. BUT, did you ever think that perhaps he got in better shape with the Heat b/c he was more motivated to play with players that play teamball, as opposed to Mr. 1 on 5? think about it, he seems to play just fine with Wade.

Wade, as opposed to Dobe, makes other players better. This is why Shaq is doing so well. Honestly, I don't see the Lakers being legitimate contenders until Dobe is in his early 30s, which ironically enough, would be the time when they trade Dobe for a younger player. So he will have come full circle, and he wont have any rings.

Hey, at least he got his "own" team. He got his wish to be "da man". Go Dobe!!!!

3:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, so many questions. You are going to have to answer yourself to the best of your knowledge and ability.

4:01 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

ha ha ha!! too funny. Obviously, they're rhetorical questions.

4:03 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well then you know the correct answers and not some weak, I-hate-Kobe answers. Obviosly, you know all about sarcasm too.

4:36 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so dude, if u say so, then y r u blaming kobe, u just said it was mitch that fired phil and then shaq wanted outie. damn there u go. case closed, mitch didnt offer shaq the money, shaq went.

8:21 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and yes asorto, phil wrote that book, but he was probably mad. just to tell you, phil wanted to make a relationship with him after he got fired. true, but y did phil return. ever thought about that. i thought you said that phil couldnt take his attitude anymore.

8:23 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

of course he changed, look at the fans when he play at away games. they didnt boo him. obviously, y aint laker fans cause u dont watch laker game. u just watch the box score.

8:25 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

To the guy who thinks Phil Jackson's come back to the Lakers means that he didn't mean what he said about Dobe. Are you kidding?

Think about this: Jackson left the Lakers b/c of Dobe's sorry attitude & b/c Buzz is in love with Dobe, then he writes a book in which he dedicates a good part of it to bust on Dobe, and after all that Jackson comes back to the Lakers to be Dobe's boss again, and he gets alot more money for it. All that says is that Dobe got egg all over his face b/c even after all his little stunts (like refusing to sign, and threatening to go to the Nuggets & Clippers), Jackson came back to coach him. Not even Jackson could have painted a better revenge scenario.

And it worked, in light of the fact that Dobe failed to make the playoffs w/o Jackson, now Jackson is getting alot of the credit for rescuing the Lakers. So Jackson got the last laugh, as opposed to him taking back all the things he wrote about Dobe.

To all you Dobe fans, I strongly recommend that you read Jackson's book. From my end, I will try to find you the article in which Jackson suggested that he might trade Dobe if the Lakers don't start winning soon. Yeah, I know I know, Jackson is not the GM, but it Buzz had an ounce of brains he would fire Kupchak, and get a new GM like Jerry.

And to the kid/guy who thinks we only watch "the box score", ha ha ha, you wish!!. Amen for NBA League Pass which lets us watch ALL every single NBA game.

10:37 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We'll since you have league pass then you would've saw all the passes that were fumbled and butchered by Kwame and Mihm. All the passes that Kobe passed to an open Smush, Sasha, etc. only to see them miss or pass it back to Kobe with the 24 sec. clock winding down. You also must have seen Lamar not fouling Marion and no, this is not the players Kobe wanted. He is not the one making the draft choices or selecting street ballers. I agree that Mitch should be fired. He is responsible for putting the players around Kobe.

11:51 PM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

hmm, since you have watched the same Lakers games that the rest of the country has seen, then I'm sure you saw all the 1 on 5s that Dobe does, or all those 30 footers that he likes to shoot with the Lakers are only down by 1 point (thus, they only need a lay-up/2 points), or you got to see all those "passes" that Dobe gives his "teamates" when he's trapped (so he passes when he has to), or you might have seen Dobe routinely go 9 out 33 (and then people wonder why the rest of the players are cold), or you might have seen Dobe pass to players with 3 seconds left so they have to take a bad shot. Since I'm sure you know a little about basketball, then no doubt you noticed all those things.

Oh, and as far as the Minh, Kwame, etc, hmm, I believe Dobe made his bed, now he has to sleep on it. What players did he have before? Shaq, Payton, etc (that was an even trade, Shaq for Minh, NOT). Yes, Shaq demanded a trade, but the question is why? and obviously, he wasn't washed-out b/c being in the finals of East(like the Heat is) sure beats not making the playoffs, or being in the NBA finals. Now Dobe will waste the best years of his life being the man, but running an average teams, I guess that's better than being a sidekick but winning rings, NOT. :-)

12:44 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i read the book, but phil came back so all is right with the world

at the end it was phil and kobe reunited

12:51 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

asorto wtf u talkin bout phil got all the credit. kobe got most of them. and besides shaq left because he wanted to be the man u stupid. y dont u watch quite frankly with shaq. it had it on 6/6/06. watch and listen to him.

and he doesnt take those shots anymore. he was averaging over 50percent in twos and threes. so shut up about his shots. cause those arent taking bad shots. smush couldnt do crap and so cant kwame the butterfingers man.

by the way the dobe thing is stupid.

1:12 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Yes, Shaq demanded a trade, but the question is why?"

Congrats! You finally get it. Shaq does everything for himself no matter what team he would be on. He left Orlando as a free agent only to sign with LA so he can be in movies, rap videos and be the CENTER of attraction. He knew at the time that the Lakers at that time didn't have a good team and didn't care that he was leaving a decent team in Orlando. Did he leave for a better team in LA? No, he left for the money and fame. Shaq is an opportunist and doesn't care about anyone else but himself. The one thing I don't like about Shaq is that he is not self-motivated to a higher cause (i.e. the team) unless it benefits himself first. Sure he likes to win and he is the one, but lose and it is the coaches fault, he didn't get the ball enough, or its the refs calling fouls on him. He is the one who throws his own teammates under the bus. Remember when DFish hit that .4 agianst the Spurs, first thing Shaq said, "one lucky shot deserves another." instead of giving props to DFish just for shooting and making the basket, he was self serving about Tim Duncun just flat out shooting above him and making a terrific shot in his face to take the lead. Kobe on the other hand said, "I am happy for (DFish). It couldn't happen to a better person." You just watch when the Mavs win Shaq will say something like 'we weren't focused.' If the Heat win Shaq will say something like 'I told you "I" can still win'
Shaq is the reason he was traded and no one else.

12:31 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

"Congrats! You finally get it. Shaq does everything for himself no matter what team he would be on."

Evidently, you didn't realize that I'd made a rhetorical question. Shaq left the Lakers because: A.) he was fed-up with dealing with Mr. 1 on 5; B.) b/c Buzz & Kupchak sided with the younger guy (Dobe). End of story. And you would have to live inside a cave not to realize that Shaq made them eat their words/actions. Shas has now been to the Eastern Finals & the NBA finals, while Dobe has been to the NBA lottery and to the 1st round of the playoffs. That's a huge difference. You can argue that Shaq is at the end of his career and that he wont make it to any more NBA finals, BUT how many finals do you think Dobe is gonna make? given the current roster, in the best case scenario he wont make the finals until he's at least 31, which is pretty much the age when Shaq got traded, which creates the very real possibility that by the time Dobe's "team" start winning, he's gonna be too old. Oh well, back to square one for Dobe.

If you're gonna quote someone, at least interpret the quote the write way, don't take it out of context. When Shaq said "one lucky shot deserves another", he obviously meant to make fun/bust on Duncan's lucky shot. Anybody with an ounce of brain must realize that he was totally busting on Duncan.

And assuming what you say is true about Shaq wanting all that Hollywood fame,etc etc then that would be another reason for Shaq to stay in LA. So even when you think you're giving us proof that Shaq wanted to leave for selfish reasons, you're actually making an argument against your own point.

The only one who is constantly accused of being a selfish prick is Dobe. I could give you a gazzillion examples of that, but all you have to do is read this entire blog, or just google Dobe's name.

10:31 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mavs in 6

10:42 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, you are a riot! Ha Ha Ha. That "Hollywood" stuff was the reason for coming to LA and Shaq was done with "it." He had no use for Hollywood anymore and therefore was no reason to stay.

11:10 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You also made my point about Shaq's quote. He was busting on Duncun because Shaq was embarrased that Duncun was able to make that shot right through Shaq and Shaq could not give props to his own teammate who just won the game. Everyone else including the Spurs gave DFish respect for his .4 shot.

11:36 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh boy do you have it backwards. It was Jerry Buss that had it with Shaq. For what ever reason you believe Shaq wanted to leave, Jerry Buss had the same reason to get rid of him. Also, I will add that the reason wasn't about his skill or lack there of, but about Shaq's sorry ass attitude toward those around the Lakers and Lakers management. I will venture to say that at least Jerry Buss made it possible to trade him to Miami soley to help Pat Riley who was, and on some level still is, a Laker and a good friend . I am quite sure that Jerry Buss is happy for Pat Riley for making it to the finals.

12:14 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

on contraire mon fraire. Dobe made Buss pick him or Shaq, and to top it all off, Shaq wanted more money that what Buzzzz was willing to pay him in light of the fact that Shaq was no longer in this 20s. Buzzz sided with the younger guy (which I guess made sense at the time) and he thought Shaq didn't have any more diesel in the tank. Obviously Buzzz was wrong.

Shaq was the one that demanded a trade when Kupchak made that lame comment on T.V. And by the way, Shaq wanted to go to a "warm weather city/team" so this is why he went to Miami, not b/c Buzzzzz wanted to help Riles.

Hmm, as far as Shaqs skills, I think most coaches would pick a guy who take a high percentage shot, and who dominates(ed) the game over a guy who makes a living out of playing 1 on 5, taking 30 footers so he can make the ESPN highlights, and who can not handle good players around him b/c he wants to be the man.

What you're saying are your own personal speculations, like the fact that you think Buzzzz is happy about Riley making the playoffs. A fact, as opposed to your speculations, is the reality that the Lakers were the lottery team last year, and this year they were happy to make the playoffs, while the Heat have become a contender (.e the Easter finals and the NBA finals). Those are facts, not speculations. Shaq's skills and record, as opposed to speculations, speak for themselves.

12:32 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man are you way over your head. Everything came together at the same time. Shaq and Kobe not getting along, losing the finals, Kobe's free agency, Phill's last year of his contract. Then Shaq's trade me demand. Which if you believe was because of Mitch, it was because of Shaq's own doing. You may believe that all of a sudden Shaq would do anything to stay with the Lakers, well it was too late to try to make it up to Jerry Buss. Buss can only take so much of Shaq's BS. Buss offered Shaq an extension and Shaq didn't want it. Buss then could only offer Kobe the max. deal or Kobe was free to sign with some other team. Phill was not offered a contract period. What to do? You start all over and the Lakers for better or worse decided to start all over. BTW-it was Pat Riley who personally met with Jerry Buss to discuss the possibility of trading for Shaq and the rest is history. It was to get rid of the Big Headache. This is not all Kobe's doing. This goes way beyond winning a championship right now for the Lakers. The Lakers weren't going to win a championship if they kept Shaq and let Kobe go. They would make the playoffs but no finals. If you can't understand this, then its all on you.

1:26 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i bet u guys dont even know why u guys hate kobe. its because it was kobe that was chosen by the media to be blamed. shaq had a problem with him, and mitch chose the younger guy. so now u blame kobe for mitch trading him? u make no sense. and you the hell do u know kobe told mitch and jerry to trade him. u have no idea what happened.

ask urself, i hate kobe because hes a ball hog and he doesnt take smart shots. vince carter is just like u. he ridiculed kobe by saying that the 81 point game was bad because the kids might think they must do it too and take many shots and ignore the team concept. last year, vince shot a lower percentage shot then him and both shot 20 a game. actually, vince shot 20.0 a game while kobe shot 20.1 a game if it makes u feel happy. so obviously, envy is the answer.

the guy quits on his team. yeah maybe he did, but didnt u know that tracy and vince did the same exact thing? both did it for the whole year. yea yea u probably thinkin i could care less about them. see there it is, thats all thats needed to prove to you that ur a sucker for a media. you could care less about them but there just as a quitter as him. so y dont u hate them as well? exatly u dont care because media says hes a bad guy and portrays the others as good.

get ur facts right. u hate him cause hes a ball hog, allen shot more him lower percentage so hate him as well, cause ur saying u hate a player for selfishness.

he quits on his team. again, look at the real quitters who quit on the season while their team was stinkin. so hate them cause u say u hate a player for being a quitter.

there u go. proved u that u just go with the news. u should start looking up the facts sometimes buddy.

1:46 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewforum.php?forum=1

i dare you to post advertise this blog on that site or even post on that site

and watch you get teared to pieces

2:05 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, your love for Dobe blinds your better judgement. Oh, and by the way, Shaq declined a much bigger contract from Orlando just to play for the Lakers, something that Dobe could not do, not even for a ring.

If Buzz was so sick of Shaq's "BS", then why would he offer him an extension? Normally when an owner gets sick of a player, the player gets traded, end of story. That's exactly the case with Chris Webber for smoking weed when he was with the Bullets, Ron Artest got traded etc etc.

Shaq demaned a trade b/c A.) He didn't get the long term contract that he demanded, and B.) B/c sorry-ass Dobe manipulated the Lakers into getting rid of Shaq and not resigning Phill. Think about this, if Buzz felt that Jackson was not worth resigning, then why would he bring him back once Dobe was under contract?

I can understand that Buzzzz wanted to go with the younger guy, and specially if the younger guy needs encouragement to sign. But again, Buzzzzz was completely wrong. No matter what you say, Dobe led the Lakers to the NBA lottery, and he QUIT on his team just to make a stupid point on an elimination game. That's fact, any true Laker fan would be pissed-off about that. And to add insult to injury, Shaq is in the finals with the Heat. Even Jackson demanded that Dobe be traded. Those are real facts, go look them up. If you can't understand simple facts, then obviously there's no point in the showing you the way.

To the guy who thinks that the media shapes our opinions, are you on crack dude? my opinion is based on what I've seen the Lakers become after Shaq left, and my opinion is also based on seeing Dobe constantly play 1 on 5 ball, or blame the "game plan", or jack-up 30 footers when there are 10 seconds left in the game, and you only need 1 point to win, etc etc etc.

Initially, the media try to kiss Dobe's ass (specially NBC) by making him to be the next Jordan, eventhough Dobe kept screwing up like the time he jacked-up 4 (yes 4) airballs from 30feet-land against an elimination game against the Jazz. That's why I hate Dobe.

You "dare me to post" on some Lakers blog? dude, the question is, what are you doing in a Kobe Haters blog? (if I hate classical music, then obvously I wont go to a classical musci oncert). Unless, of course, you see Dobe is as your Lord/God/Idol that you have to come and defend his honor, or lack thereof.

As far as the other ball hogs in the league, we don't dedicate a blog to them b/c they are not the ones that have brought the Lakers to being a mediocre team.

I will leave you with a nice quote from an article found on Wikipedia


"Aftermath and image problems
Kobe Bryant had always received an abundance of criticism regarding his play on the basketball court. Detractors have long branded him as a selfish, egotistic player who pads his own achievements at the expense of his team. However, one factor which had helped to uphold a generally positive public image even despite such criticism had been the public's perception of him as "squeaky-clean" with regard to his moral behaviors. The public had become accustomed to tales of high-profile professional athletes indulging gratuitously in a wild nightlife rife with alcohol, drugs and/or sexual promiscuity. But Bryant had a reputation as one who eschewed such behaviors, preferring to keep quietly to himself, even to the point of his being criticized for not socializing enough with his teammates. The events surrounding the alleged sexual assault changed that dynamic drastically. At best, he was guilty of the adultery to which he had confessed. And when the police transcript of his interview with investigators later became public, it revealed that Bryant had further confessed to investigators that his adultery with Faber was not an isolated incident. He had acknowledged that unbeknownst to his wife, he had been maintaining an on-going affair with another woman in New York.[7] But still worse was the fact that despite the lack of a criminal conviction, many people believed him to be guilty of rape.

Bryant previously had a positive moral image but, with his image so badly tarnished, the public's perception of Bryant plummeted, and his endorsement contracts with McDonald's, Nutella, and Ferrero SpA were terminated. His ball play was also viewed more critically. Sales figures from NBA merchandisers indicated that sales of replicas of Bryant's jersey fell far off of their previous highs.

Furthering the blemish upon Bryant's reputation was the public rift through the Laker core of Bryant, O'Neal, and coach Phil Jackson. In well-documented episodes throughout their careers together on the Lakers, mainly over leadership of the team, O'Neal and Bryant have feuded in dramatic fashion. The 2000-era Lakers were built around the dominant center in O'Neal but Bryant seemed to tire of his formal role as "second fiddle" on the team. Though there were periods when the two seemed to get along very well, during the rougher times, O'Neal would not be shy about launching criticisms toward teammates, usually without explicitly mentioning names, but with details that left no doubt he was referring primarily to Bryant. Bryant only responded publicly on one occasion, in an interview with Jim Gray of ESPN, where he called O'Neal "fat" and bristled at O'Neal's previous characterizations of their relationship as "big brother" and "little brother."

The sexual assault allegations ultimately led to one of the largest blows to the relationship between Bryant and O'Neal, as well as serious damage to Bryant's personal reputation among other NBA players. According to a supplemental report added to the original transcript, when questioned by the police during their investigation, in an apparent attempt to deflect questioning, Bryant had brought up alleged extramarital affairs by O'Neal. [8] If Bryant made such a comment, it likely meant that in order to extricate himself from his own situation, he had either made false allegations of adultery against O'Neal, or, even if the allegations were true, had betrayed O'Neal's confidence in that matter to investigators. Either explanation served only to further sully Bryant's image.

Other conflicts have also done their share of damage to Bryant's image. In addition to his problems with O'Neal, Bryant feuded with other teammates during his career. In an isolated incident, he allegedly punched then teammate Samaki Walker in the face outside of the team bus. In 2004, a dispute between Bryant and former teammate Karl Malone became public prior to Malone's expected re-signing with the Lakers. Bryant claimed Malone had made inappropriate comments to Bryant's wife. Malone claimed the comments were in jest and that Bryant was overreacting. In the subsequent months, rather than re-join Bryant and the Lakers, Malone turned his attention to the possibility of joining another team, but ultimately decided to retire. More recently, there have been rumors of Bryant clashing with teammate Lamar Odom which both have denied and attribute to media rumors.


Phoenix Suns guard Raja Bell clotheslines Bryant during a 2006 playoff game. The incident sparked a brief feud between the two players.Bryant also clashed with coach Jackson. While remarkably efficient in Jackson's "triangle offense", Bryant had a personaldistaste for Jackson's brand of basketball and subsequently called it "boring." In games, Bryant would often disregard the set offense completely to experiment with his own one-on-one moves, incensing the normally calm Jackson. Bryant managed to test Jackson's patience enough that the "Zen Master" even demanded that Bryant be traded, although Laker management rejected the request.

[edit]
The end of the Trifecta
Jackson's coaching contract expired following the 2003–04 season and the Lakers failed to produce a championship despite sporting four Hall of Fame-caliber players: Karl Malone, Gary Payton, O'Neal, and Bryant. Bryant opted out of his contract and became free agent, thus having the ability to choose to leave for another team if he desired. Amid that atmosphere, Jackson was not invited back to coach the team. Many fans attribu

5:30 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You found that "nice quote" then read it but evidently YOU didn't even understand it. Go figure.

2:45 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont be fkin stupid and look at the real facts. as much as kobe wanted to be the man, shaq was just like him. he wanted to be the man but it didnt go his way. so he started to cry and whine feed me the ball every time. u always look at it one way and say that. just cause were defending him and that u find ur facts right doesnt make us blind. the only person that thinks ur right is you. u think ur all right and that u know everything and crap its hilarious.

5:18 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

that's funny, the Kobe Fans keep coming back, I love it.

The quote that I posted actually got cut-off b/c it was so long, the best part was yet to come. But just so you know, there are hundreds and hundreds of articles on the internet documenting what this blog says. All you have to do is google Dobe's name, or read Jackson's books, or just look at the facts.

The reality if that the truth hurts, you can't dispute the fact that Lakers went from being in the finals to being in the lottery. And again, to add insult to injury Shaq makes it to the East Finals and the NBA finals. And just if that wasn't enough, Dobe quits on the Lakers to make a childish point. Dobe actually, in a way, sabbotaged the Lakers b/c since he wasn't going to try to score, the Lakers were actually playing 4 on 5 on offense. But anyway, if you'r so hurt that you can't see the truth then that's your problem.

10:01 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is the fucking dumbest blog ever

8:43 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

amen to that

7:57 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, I just read you guy's blog. I love it. I hope you keep it up next year.

11:37 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no u stupid u keep saying that stupid thing over and pver and over again. the damn truth hurts? what truth, yeah the lakers sukk but i dont even know your team. what is it, the bobcats? is that y u hate so much? and by the way, if u dont listen to me, listen to what bill walton said during game 1. that guy knows way more than u and i hope he shuts ur ass up.

11:34 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5 points.

12:04 AM

 
Anonymous jane said...

Yeah for Shaq! 5 points in the 2nd game is KICK ASS buddy!

12:15 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

hhmm, Shaq only had 5 points?. OH wait wait, wait Mr. Hurt Dobe Fan, how many points did Dobe have tonight? hmmm, ZERO, the big fat donut, nada, zip, cero, get it? Did Dobe outscore Shaq in the previous round? oh wait, Dobe was not in previous round. We repeating things b/c you keep coming up with the same lame arguments.

And leave it to a Dobe fan to focus on Shaq's individual points, since that's what Dobe fans look at (i.e the number of points player scores per night regarless of how deep in the playoffs the team makes it). No wonder none of you held Dobe accountable for "LEADING" the Lakers into the lottery. Oh wait, he "did know have the right team". Ha ha ha ha, that's funny. Tell that to Jordan with players like Paxon, Winnington, etc etc.

Even if the Heat goes down in 4, that would still be way more than what Dobe has done in the past 2 years. So go ahead, keep focusing on Dobe's scoring. Just don't count the 2nd half an elimination game :-)

12:27 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude. It not about reaching the finals. It is all about winning. You must be like all the Bills fans. 'Daddy are we going to win the super bowl this year?' 'well sure son, this is the fourth year in a row for us.' Your lame "how many did Kobe score tonight? really is pathetic.

1:01 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you have not noticed, this is a "shaq makes a difference" post. Shaq is fair game. 5 points!

1:08 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

actually no, you're 100% wrong. This is not a Shaq Vs. Dobe blog. I should know, I'm one the people that created this blog.

Shaq just happens to be one of the many ways that one can show how Dobe makes terrible decisions when playing basketball, and how he has alot to do with the fact that the Lakers have gone from being a good team, to an average team.

If you take the time to read the blog, as opposed to just the last posting, you will note that we also have articles on Dobe Vs. Lebron, or Dobe Vs. The Suns (Nash), etc etc

And yes, just being in the finals is not the ultimate goal of any NBA Player, but it's sure 1,000 times better than leading your team to the NBA lottery, and to getting bounced in the 1st round, specially b/c you quit on your team. That's a fact

1:23 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaq just happens to be one of the many ways that one can show how Dobe makes terrible decisions when playing basketball, and how he has alot to do with the fact that the Lakers have gone from being a good team, to an average team.

yeah sure when he scores 5 points. when in 04 they were 1-1 in finals and this year, a big fat donut.

1:27 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

watch shaq cry like a baby sometimes. MT TEAMATES ARENT FEDING ME THE BALL!

1:29 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

as I said before, even if Shaq goes 9 out of 33 (something that Dobe does all the time) in the finals, it sure beats not getting out of the 1st round, or not makingg the playofss. How can anybody argue with that? I guess you can if you ignore the facts.

1:31 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is not so bad being a lottery team. The Cavs were and selected Lebron. The Spurs were once and selected Duncun. The Heat selected Dwyane Wade as a lotto team. So hopefully Bynum in year(3 or 4) will be The Center of the NBA. Only time will tell.

1:40 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

"it is not so bad being a lottery team"? are you kidding me? No one is disputing that you can get awesome players from the lottery. The point is that by going to the lottery you don't make the playoffs. In 3 to 4 years Dobe will be around the same age as Shaq, and therefore he will be on the trading block, so at the end the Lakers will be back to square 1, which part of the point of this blog.

8:43 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

teamplayer,

kobe has recommitted himself to God, he has learned from his mistakes

3:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shaq sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

3:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kobe has turned to God? I don't believe you, but that's funny anyway. ha ha ha

4:11 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he goes to church every sunday and he has publicly recommitted himself to God

religion is not a topic to be taken lightly

7:26 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont be fkin makin fun of somebody for praying. he goes to church and try to be a different person. you shouldnt be saying something like that.

8:28 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kobe has turned to God? I don't believe you, but that's funny anyway. ha ha ha


so who is it, teampalyer or asorto. its one of you cowards

8:28 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Man, you talk about the guy like you either know him or you stalk him. He goes to church every Sunday? He has turned to God? Where do you get this stuff from?

And even he did "turn to God," what difference does that make? All sorts of criminals go to church every Sunday and confess their sins as well. Plus, what he does on the basketball court and what he says during interviews shows that he's not a "changed man" by any standards - religious or not. On the contrary, he becomes more arrogant and unrepentant each year.

So don't be bringing religion into this, that's completely ridiculous.

Plus, keep in mind that Kobe has been consciously doing a lot to improve his image over the past year or so. All the things he does - i.e. joining the Olympic team, hanging out with a kid from New Orleans - are publicity stunts. You can see right through that.

And, where do you get off calling us cowards? As far as I know, we've always both posted under our names. That's why we have them. You, whoever you are, have posted like a 1000 comments, but are too much of a coward to get a name. (And don't BS about "everyone is anon." It takes exactly 15 seconds to create a member name.)

8:44 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

more people than you realize live in newport beach and/or have friends who live there and attend the same church as kobe. there's your answer

are you saying anytime someone does something nice it is a pr stunt? lol

11:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kobe 62, Dallas 61 after 3 periods. Shaq 5 points and sits out the 4th period. I know you Kobe haters will say that Kobe did it in a "meaningless game" and Shaq is in the finals, but that is my whole point. Shaq "is" in the finals and can't even muster a decent game. He can't even be man enough to face the media afterwards. What a coward! What happen? Did Dwyane cut his tongue?

11:31 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Sure, but do these people actually know Kobe and hang out with him? I used to live in NY, work in SoHo and see celebrities around every weekend - doesn't mean I actually know anything about them b/c I see them at a Starbucks or some store all the time. Plus, like I said, it's your actions that define who you are, not showing your face in church on Sundays.

And no, not all the nice things that people do are stunts. It's only when a celebrity whose image is under attack suddenly starts doing a bunch of nice things that he never did before that it's obviously that those things are done for publicity reasons.

11:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

har har har. he does rebuild his image and he tries. shaq doesnt try anything. thats why hes so fkin fat.

11:45 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i can stay anon because im a guest here. u however, if u made this blog, u shouldnt stay as anonymous rite. u do post as anonymous sometimes dont deny it.

11:47 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Shaq doesn't need to rebuild his image b/c his image has never been tainted. And actually, he's not fat, Shaq looks like he's pure muscle these days. Kobe is the one who's probably fat these days from sitting on the couch all day watching others play b-ball.

And no, I've never posted anon. Why would I? It's not like I need to hide my views. And you're quite deluded to assume that there aren't people who read and write on this blog who are Kobe haters. After all, it's not like I invented the term.

11:54 PM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

Dobe and church? nice. Regardless of whether he's doing if for the right reasons, or just as a PR stunt it does not change a thing. Dobe is Dobe (i.e. the king of 1 on 5, the guy who led the Lakers to the lottery, the guy who tried to involve Shaq when he was being questioned about his rape case, the guy who thinks he's giving his teammates a chance to get rebounds whenever he goes 9 out 33, etc etc etc). Dobe can go to church all he wants, and it is not going to chance a thing.

Shaq doesn't need to change his image, he's not the one that has all that baggage. And honestly, I can't help to wonder if Dobe is pretending to go to church just to fool those that are easily fooled. He magically decides that he wants to be in the olympic team after all these years, he freaking associates himself with the kid from New Orleans, he pretends he plays teamball just to use that as an excuse whenever they lose.

Why am I not surprised that some of you Dobe's Lovers are focusing on Dobe scoring 81 points in the regular season and Shaq scoring 5 in game 2 of the finals? that's exactly what I would expect from someone that doesn't understand that individual accomplishments don't count in a TEAM sport. Individual accomplisments count in sports like Tennis, golf, etc etc.

The reality is that Dobe is not in the finals, and he had led the Lakers into being a mediocre team. You can not deny that b/c it's a fact. So I gues you focus on Dobe's individual accomplishments to fool yourself into thinking that his little accomplishments means that Lakers are in the finals, or that they made the Western Finals. Get real!!

Take your hand out of the sand, there are plenty of people that have posted on this blog that hate Dobe, and they've posted as "Anonymous". As Teamplayer correctly put it, be a man/woman and at least develop a member name.

It's interesting how Dobe's Lovers keep coming back to defend their idol. I love it.

12:16 AM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

Just about that everything Dobe does is a PR stunt to fix his image, so I wouldn't put it past him to go to church just to fix it. The funny thing is that Dobe created that damaged image, he only has himself to blame. Thank God he can count of Dobe's Fans to follow him, somebody has to.

12:21 AM

 
Blogger MySpace Band Reviews said...

Too bad he can't make a free throw.

12:22 AM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

yeah, and the 81 points Dobe got sure got him real far. Heck, all the poinst Dobe got last year got him even further (the LOTTERY). You go Dobe.

12:40 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he has always done charity, he just choose to never publicize it unlike the fat shaq

1:16 AM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

charity, a rape charge, and trying to involve one of your teammate in your rape case. Yeap, that's a model citizen for ya. Oh, and by the way, one of the requirements of Dobe's accuser was that he issue and apology. He did exactly that. Hmmm...nice. But heck, he's a "changed man" by going to church, I seriously doubt that. PR baby, PR all the way. He could get a volunteer job at the Salvation Army, and yet alot of people would think that it's all PR b/c of his fake comments and his actions. Go google his name and search for articles that talk about how Dobe always says the right things, but means otherwise.

1:25 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great piece of blogging. Glad I accidently found your blog. I would love you to visit this site lucid dream and tell me what you think.

4:26 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaq likes to pay his women, I sure hope Shaunie is safe from Shaq, he might take out his frustrations out on her. Shaq the cry baby, crying because he didn't want to face the media after only 5 points in a finals game.

9:50 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hell yes shaq does need to change. change his attitude. he saying curse words in live tv not doing interviews and not working out.

ey guess ur blog does tell you how much i posted. hey u just figured that most of the comments you posted was against me. guess i piss ya off huh.

8:01 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh and by the way, im not blind cause i know his mistakes. i do agree with u sometimes. i dont think hes perfect cause nobody is.

8:13 PM

 
Blogger ariadneK, Ph.D. said...

What a ridiculously childish blog.

9:01 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

"What a ridiculously childish blog. "

Dear Wannabe "Doc", nothing could be more childish than pretending to be important by posting "Ph.D." as part of your screename. Time to go back to taking that Prozack, maybe that will bring you down to earth.

12:44 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he might not have meant it as serious thing. if it is, u dont know if hes a doc or not.

1:54 AM

 
Blogger ariadneK, Ph.D. said...

Fuck you, you don't even know how to spell PROZAC".

You are a goddamn moron, and I am not a HE.

If you have to rag on the Ph.D. thing, you obviously have deep-seated issues about people with educations higher than your own. I pity your petty despisement.

2:32 AM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Umm, actually, asorto1 does have an advanced degree, and so do I. We're just secure enough about them to not have to announce them to the world.

And, anybody who uses the "f" word in every sentence, is not doing their degree (whatever is it) much justice.

2:48 AM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Dear "Ph.D.",

The way you conduct yourself negates any sort of degree you might have received. The spelling of the word Prozac is nothing compared to the huge issues you obviously have (just go back and read your own postings from your blog). And lady, if you're gonna dish it-out, then don't be surprsed when you get it right back.

9:13 AM

 
Blogger Ricardo said...

I can't stand Kobe. Give em hell for me guys!

7:27 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Thanks Ricardo. We appreciate the support!

7:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its too bad u dont have much support from people here. maybe a ratio of 10:1 laker fans.

1:37 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE HEAR ... that after basketball legend and businessman Earvin "Magic" Johnson finished a keynote speech at the official launch party for Embarq at the Orleans Arena, the Laker Hall of Famer wasn't shy about taking shots at former Laker teammates Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal.

"I'm sure the first question will be (about) why Kobe can't pass, and I can't answer that. I'm trying to teach him that," said Johnson, now part-owner of the team, to the audience. "The second question will be, 'Do you know what happened between Kobe and Shaq?'" He answered that one: "Shaq was making $18 million a year and Kobe was making $11 million and they were fighting about whose team it was. If I gave you $11 million, how many people here would worry about whose team it was?"

quite when to both sides

4:31 AM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Ummmm, no, man, Kobe fans = you. Posting a 1000 times doesn't multiply the numbers. And, there are tons of Kobe Haters that read this blog, they just don't need to post every second b/c we speak for tham.

And for the millionth times, we're Laker fans.

1:31 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah right. You aren't Lakers fans. You are Shmuq's fans. Shmuq (I-just-got-hammered-by-JStack) O'WTF that is.

2:20 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

No, actually, we are Laker fans, as opposed to individual player fans like you. I personally respect Shaq b/c I think he's a smart player - he knows his strengths and his weaknesses and he doesn't let his ego get ahead on him on the court. And, he cares about winning more than being "the star." BUT, I never hesitated in criticizing Shaq when he played for the Lakers, just like I don't hesitate to criticize any player when he deserves it.

You, on the other hand, are a Kobe bandwaggon rider. He could run the Lakers into the ground for the next 5 years, and you'd still find excuses for him.

3:11 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Exactly. Anybody that follows Dobe blindly is not a Lakers fan. We invoke Shaq's name as an example of what Dobe has done to this team and how Shaq is still winning, but that's all (as opposed to worshipping Shaq, like of you do with Dobe). But evidently that's a concept that's too difficult to grasp for some Dobe fans.

3:24 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you say that you will be critical of any Laker player, then why don't aren't you critical of Lamar Odom when he has his arms straight up as if he is gaurding a two point layup by Marion instead of laying his arms around Marion for a take-out-of-bounds-foul with seconds to go in the game. Kobe didn't ask for these players. That falls on Mitch. I said to all my friends that if they trade Shmuq, they better get Shywane because he's a baller. It seems I even knew better than Mitch and I am just a Lakers fan. I am critical of all Lakers when it is due and I am not critical just to be a Shmuq A$$kisser.

3:40 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Kobe is the one that wanted to be "Da Man", so it's only natural that he catches all the heat for the Lakes mediocre status. Lamar Odom has made mistakes just like any other player does, but he difference is that Lamar Odom, Luke Walton (and yes, he sucks), etc were not the ones that caused the previous Laker team to be dismantled. Also, Dobe is the one that loves to play 1 on 5, take 30 footers when 3 guys on him, etc etc. So yes, the other players are not as talented as Dobe, but he's the one that thinks he's so great that he has caused the Lakers to lose so much. It's easy to hop on the Dobe bandwagon, it's hard to see the truth. But the facts are the facts.

5:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we fallowing kobe is blind? open ur eyes and see why there is 40 000 people in staples center every game cheering for him. and no, u barley have any supporters while we who call u lbind hammer u every day. facts are facts, u are just rare fans that doesnt really know anything about players who are in the lakers or was. ill ask u again u hate him cause he quit and he ball hogs. from what i know, vince and tracy quit on their team and iverson and tracy both had seasons when they shot the same time. u dont hate them? why not, they did the same exact thing to u.

7:30 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

facts are fact. there was never footage of when he said he wanted to be the man. actually, it was really shaq who started the beef. kobe just retaliated when shaq was bitiching on him.

7:32 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

First, once again, there is no "we," it's just "you."

Second, we don't "hate" T-Mac and Vince b/c 1) we don't care about Orlando and the Raptors, and 2) those guys didn't quit in Game 7 of the playoffs, they just wanted to be traded.

And third, sure, there are all these people who cheer for Kobe in LA. Would you buy insanely priced tickets to boo the guy? Plus, a good number of these people are band-waggon riding celebrities who just like the Lakers b/c it's the "in" thing to do. What really shows how people feel about Kobe is how he gets booed and jeered at almost every away game. You will not find any other player in the NBA who gets booed as much as Kobe does. Interestingly enough, no one boos Shaq in LA. You can draw your own conclusions from that.

8:48 PM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

you can deny all you want the fact that Dobe wanted to get rid of Shaq and Phill so Dobe could be "Da Man". You're wrong, but you can deny it. You can't deny that Dobe is the King of 1 on 5 (even the LA media agrees with us), that he jacks up dumb-ass 30 footers (again, the media agreed with us by reporting that Dobe stopped playing "Kobe Ball" and he started playing Teamball), you can't deny that the Lakers went from being in the finals to being in the lottery. Those are cold hard facts, you can keep posting here all you want, and it's still not gonna change those facts.

And by the way, I personally could care less if Dobe fans post here. In fact, I LOVE IT!!!! We don't post to get love letters, we post to highlight Dobe's sad selfish game. I do think it's funny how Dobe fans go to a Dobe Haters blog to defend their idol/master.

9:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of facts, how can there be 40,000 people to watch the Lakers in a 20,000 seat arena? Maybe they have two persons per chair? Heh, heh

9:50 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of facts, how can there be 40,000 people to watch the Lakers in a 20,000 seat arena? Maybe they have two persons per chair? Heh, heh

9:50 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of facts, how can there be 40,000 people to watch the Lakers in a 20,000 seat arena? Maybe they have two persons per chair? Heh, heh

9:50 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hahaha teamplayer, plz dont generalize. u dont know anything about hollywood celebrities. oh yeah, did u forget that kobe wasnt booed at the all star game. everybody says that his 81 point game repaired his image. yeah saying u use facts.

of course its we, this blog got token over by the fans. thats y u call us blind and crap cause everybody was baggin on u. 10:1.

so ur saying people wont buy tickets to boo him but cheer him? u dont make sense.

then watch shaq when he was at l.a this year. u dont watch basketball. gary payton and shaq was booed. most people hate him because he was accused. not because he broke up the lakers.

if u say he jacks up 30 footers and play 1 on 5, then hes pretty damn good for a guy who does that. shooting over 50 percent on 3s and 2s. calling him our masters? ur just one of those suckers that listen to the media.


oh and by the way, it just gets to show u how much ur wrong cause almost everybody is a kobe fan here in california. so ur not ganna call everybody in california dumb r u?

9:51 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh and i just realized, scottie pippen and mark jackson talks about how good he is. in fact, analyst in espn basically talked about how well he did in the regular season in guiding his team and everything. and those guys know much more than u. shaq won 7 more games then the lakers. yeahhhh sure shaq makes a huge difference huh.

9:58 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh and 1 more thing for u. ur not laker fans cause u actually praised the suns to win the seris. if ur a laker fan, u would cheer for them rite?

10:02 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Yes, and you know a lot more about Hollywood celebrities than I do. So what if Kobe wasn't booed at the All Star game. He was booed at every Lakers away game that I saw (and that's a good 90% of away games that the Lakers played this year).

I was saying that people don't buy tickets to boo players from their home team. For, example, lets say, someone who lives in Houston who hates Yao, is not going to pay $200/ticket to go boo Yao. It's safe to say that most people who went to the Staples Center (where tickets are outrageously expensive) this year are Kobe fans, as opposed to just Laker fans. That makes perfect sense.

And, no, it's not we. It's obvious that it's just you. Maybe that's why you keep posting anon, b/c you want people to think that there are like 100 people defending Kobe, when, in reality, it's just you.

10:07 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Actually, we are still Laker fans. I always root for the Lakers to win. I just want Dobe to fail b/c I'm sick of him. I'm actually really happy when the rest of the team does well (see posts on Odom, Smush stepping up). You, on the other hand, are quick to rat on everyone else on the team, to prove to yourself that Dobe is great.

10:12 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually, not i dont want the others to fail and kobe to succed. i want the lakers to win and mostly, the only way for that to happen is for kobe to shoot. its the only way and thays why they havent changed their game plan for the season. dude asorto, everybody here is a laker fan. i love posting here cause its a laker blog.

11:14 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sad

12:33 AM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

"i want the lakers to win and mostly, the only way for that to happen is for kobe to shoot. its the only way and thays why they havent changed their game plan for the season."

Are you serious? dude, the Lakers have become what they've become (i.e. a lottery team, and 1st round loser) b/c of precisely that! (i.e. Dobe shooting like there's no tomorrow). Most people that are not Dobe fans agree with that. And actually, you're wrong, the Lakers did change their game plan against the Suns. Remember? the media kept talking about how Dobe was no longer playing "1 on 5" and that he was playing teamball. Jackson was somehow (after 10 years) able to convince Dobe that 1 on 5 ball and shooting 33 shots per game was not working, and that he had to pass the ball. They did that, and they were able to extend the series to 7 games. What more proof do you want that having Dobe shoot all the time does not work, specially when he takes such dumb-ass shots. Dobe has made the Lakers very predictable, which in turn causes him to get double & trippled. And honestly, it seems like he gets-off on being tripled-teamed so he can make ESPN's highlights whenever he hits a shot on 3 guys, or whenever he takes a 30 footer when you only need 1 point to win.

You can argue that he does not have the right players to win, but whose fault is that? he had decent players before but he wasn't happy until he got rid of anyone that threatened him, including Jackson. All that shooting has gotten Dobe to lead the Lakers to the lottery. If you're a true Lakers fan you would be furious at Dobe, but of course, you'll just defend that fact that he led them to the lottery.

In Dobe's 2nd season w/o Shaq, Buss had get Jackson to save Dobe's ass. Read Jackson's book and you'll see that we're right on target. Or just look at the Lakers after Shaq and Jackson left. Either way, it does not look good for Captain 1 on 5.

2:46 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's "The Captain Dobe", "The Dober", "The Doctor Dobe", "The Dobe-ster", "Kobe-One-Badd-Dobe-Bryant", "Obe Won Konobe Dobe Kobe", "Master Dobe Kobe Bryant", with respect to you.

11:12 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol same with u man.^^

the thing is, why would u be dissapoined. this was a good year for the lakers. camon, u cant actually expect a really big change. what team became a 10th pick lottery team to becoming the champions. this was an inevitable loss and this summer, sam cassel and kg are considering to come here. really it doesnt matter for most nba players cause when they were intervied, all said they dont mind... except shaq. i am proud of what they did and im pretty sure u are too in some ways of being a laker fan.

3:01 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

What team went from being in the finals to being a lottery team? the Lakers. Why? Dobe (the king of 1 on 5). And now you're gonna be satisfied b/c they made it to the 1st round? I'm not. Oh well, at least Dobe got to be the man, and he gets to lead the league in scoring. NICE, not!!!

9:08 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thats not my point. what was done, was done. when your down and out, what do u do, you rebuild. lakers have been rebuilding better than any team. u sure it was him that broke the lakers. im not so sure that phil said that. if he did, i believe that, but theres no evidence.

10:13 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and also, look at it this way, at least the lakers arent like the bulls now a days. at least they arent like the celtics.

10:15 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Actually, there are a lot of other teams who have rebuilt just as well or better than the Lakers:

1) The Bulls, actually, went from being 29-53 two years ago to making it to the first round of the playoffs for 2 years. And that's a very young team with lots of potential.

2) The Suns have done even better: same record as the Bulls, 29-53 two years ago. Made it to the Western Conference Finals two years in a row.

3) Now look at the Miami Heat. 25-57 three years ago. 42-40 two years ago. Made it to the Eastern Conference Finals last year. Are in the NBA finals this year with the chance to win the title.

Besides that, the point it that the Lakers didn't HAVE to rebuild the way they did. They had 2 stars who, despite whatever issues personal issues, worked well enough together to win 3 titles. They could've won another couple of titles if Kobe could put aside his ego and put his team's well being first.

There was nothing wrong with the Lakers after the 2003-04 season. They made to it to the NBA finals. Did they break up the Pistons last year after they lost to the Spurs? No. Are they going to break them up this year after they failed to make it to the NBA finals? Very unlikely.

Of course there's no "in your face" evidence that Kobe broke up the team. What do you expect, to hear Kobe say "I broke up the team?" "I chased away Shaq, Jackson, Fisher, Payton, etc."? Of course not. But everything else he says and does points to that fact.

Kobe hasn't skipped a beat in heralding himself as the leader of the team after Shaq left. You can hear it in his interviews - "my team," "I'm the leader," "I'm the veteran," etc. You can see it on the court - he patronizes the other guys, chewes them out when they do something he's unhappy about, he acts like he, not Phil Jackson, runs the team.

And, in addition, we have everyone else, including Phil Jackson - who I think I'll trust since he was right in the middle of the whole thing - corroborating that same story.

Why should I believe anything else?

11:17 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes u are correct, but ur missing one thing. those teams blockbuster stars to player for them. who did the lakers get, kwame and smush.

11:41 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I expect you guys to step up and come correct. Kobe didn't break up the team, it was Jerry Buss who ordered Mitch to trade Shmuq, sign Kobe and negotiate a deal with Rudy T. It was Mitch's responsibility to trade for the right players in return. I firmly believe that Jerry Buss gave every opportunity to Riles because of their friendship. Riles on the other hand didn't want to trade Dwyane to the Lakers and you can see why. Shwyane and Shmuq are the closest to Kobe and Shaq in the 3 peat era Lakers and Riles knew that. Shmuq knew that as well and decided to get in shape. All in all they all had a hand in this mess. Kobe and the Lakers have to start all over, Miami still has to win a title and whether they do or not, Miami will soon fall too. Shmuq will start to gain weight again, he will no longer be the same player and will retire in 2 years and all of a sudden a new rookie(s) centers will emerge to stardom. It always happens. It is called the cycle of life. It happens in the NBA too. From Wilt, to Kareem to Shaq to the future.

1:23 AM

 
Blogger Riss said...

Oh my God. This is my new favorite blog.

1:54 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God will punish all you haters

2:01 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

man kobe haters are ugly like riss

12:56 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Nice, childish insults, and commenting on someone's looks while obviously you are so insecure that you have to post anon.

Riss, thanks for the props, and please ignore the morons.

1:18 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG- Riss you have an ugly mug. You never should've put your pic up. At leaest you could've shosen a better looking pic of yourself. Man- that is Fugly. Who is this Riss? Do I know this person? Signed, The Master Dobester

2:24 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

Master Dobester?

Nah, more like childish moron. Keep hiding behind the computer. Grow up dude. Perhaps in 5 years you will understand how childish your above-comments are.

2:38 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dude, if you think it was me, which im the guy that posts a lot :), it not. so plz dont blame me.

6:32 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LMAO-you obviosly don't listen to The Jim Rome. Get over yourself. Lighten up. What up? Don't you understand what levity means? "Grow up dude. In 5 years I will understand (something)?" how do you want me to respond to that, hmm, oh I know, 'grow up dude, in 5 years you will look back at what a lame blog you created.' Please, don't take your blog so seriously. There is more to life than a blog. Take care of yourself, family and friends. Chill and have fun. Ha ha ha. I love it too.

7:57 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

Hey dude, our blog is meant to be funny. Your calling people ugly, on the hand, is just stupid and moronic.

And actually, we happen to have real lives, while your idea of entertainment it insulting random people you don't even know on blogs. LMAO.

8:11 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right. Just like Riss. Haven't you read her profile? My guess is that you haven't or otherwise you would know that she likes to smack on others too. She even gets it. By her profile she is a fun person to be around with and who doesn't like tequila shots. My fave is Cuervo Gold. By the way YOU respond you must have a hectic job and take your anger out on bloggers to your own blog. Have a tequila shot instead.

8:30 PM

 
Blogger asorto1 said...

exactly. One think is taking the blog seriously (or not taking it seriously), another thing is busting on someone's appearance. We can all take jokes or bust on each other's take on Dobe Bryant's play. But you're such a pussy that you hide behind the fact that you're "just kidding" to bust on the woman's appearance, you little pussy. At least be a man and admit that you messed-up. But no, instead you claim that we're being uptight. Obviously, you still don't realize that you crossed the line when it comes to that lady. Maybe in 5 years you will also start acting like grown man b/c right now you're just a little pussy who hides behind the excuse of "just kidding around".

you're the one who obviously doesn't understand Jim Rome's show. Get a life dude, and develop some brains while you're at it.

Making fun of someone's appearance it's just not cool, specially a lady who has not attacked you. And to top it all off, you went to her blog to bust on her some more. Good job loser.

8:33 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The above should be read as a question as in-And who doesn't like tequila shots?

8:35 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and it used to be me who got in all the arguments :)

8:58 PM

 
Anonymous Asorto1-the total loser who can't understand anon's posts. said...

Tequila shots anyone? I can sure use one. But I will wait till the weekend or once the heat lose- which ever comes first.

10:23 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

she is ugly that's the truth

10:32 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and i never said it was wrong to be ugly although in your opinion it may be

10:37 PM

 
Anonymous asorto1 said...

dude,

Not only are you an immature child, but you're dumb as hell. Anyone with an ounce of brain would know that the point of our above-post is that it's not cool to make fun of someone's appearance. But obviously this is a concept that it too difficult for you to understand, you CHILD!!

10:43 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can just imagine had Kobe had the chance to play the Mavs in the playoffs. Kobe would have gone off way more than Shywane has against the Mavs defence. We all know that the Mavs are the team to beat in the West so the Lakers must set their goal to seed better next season and go up against the Mavs in the playoffs and see what Kobe would do against these Mavs.

11:39 PM

 
Blogger TeamPlayer said...

But the whole point is that Kobe DOESN'T have a chance to go up against the Mavs.

There's a reason D-Wade is in the finals and Kobe's not: D-Wade is a smarter, more mature player who knows how to shine while also making his teammates better.

Kobe and the Lakers will never go anywhere unless he turns around his game and his attitude, and given that he hasn't changed in his 10 years in the league, that's not likely to happen.

9:07 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

u forgot the playoffs. he changed his game.. didnt he? maybe not that much but that did prove that he could make his teamates better.

CAMON u cant disagree with this. its totally true.

7:11 PM

 

Post a Comment

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home